Episode 97: Stories From Financial INvestigations with Chris Quick, CPA, CFF
In this season of The Data Sleuth Podcast, titled "From Numbers to Narratives," guest host Justin Burns, tackles topics including FBI Investigations, Anti-Money Laundering, Family Fraud, IRS Investigations, and more. In each episode, Justin is joined by an industry expert to help tell the story behind the numbers and explore the latest in fraud detection and prevention.
In today’s episode we hear FBI Investigation stories with Chris Quick, CPA CFF. In this episode, Justin and Chris discuss:
· How the FBI assists other countries with financial investigations.
· Chris’ work with the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force.
· Chris’ work since leaving the FBI.
GUEST BIO
Chris Quick has 30 years of federal investigative experience, mostly with the FBI. He has worked as a special investigator with the FBI, supervised the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force, Acted as the FBI Terrorist Finance Coordinator for the State of South Carolina, and completed terrorism training with the Israel Security Agency in Tel Aviv, Israel. After leaving the FBI, Chris started Quick Group, LLC where he continues to help clients by providing financial investigation services.
Email: cquick@quickgroupllc.com
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Transcript
Leah Wietholter:
Hi, I'm Leah Wietholter, and this is The Data Sleuth Podcast. In this season of The Data Sleuth Podcast, From Numbers To Narratives. Our host, Justin Burns, the director of Operations for Workman Forensics, discusses a broad range of forensic accounting cases, from embezzlement to money laundering, fraud against family members and so much more. In each episode, he's joined by an industry expert to help tell the story behind the numbers.
Justin Burns:
Thank you, Leah. I'm Justin Burns, and I'll be your host for this season of The Data Sleuth Podcast, From Numbers To Narratives. Together with some amazing guests, we'll take you beyond the spreadsheets and into the human side of fraud investigations. Let's dive in to today's episode. In today's episode of The Data Sleuth Podcast, we'll hear some investigation stories from Chris Quick. Chris has 30 years of federal investigative experience, mostly with the FBI. He has worked as a special investigator with the FBI, supervised the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force, acted as the FBI Terrorist finance coordinator for the state of South Carolina and completed terrorism training with the Israeli Security Agency in Tel Aviv, Israel. After leaving the FBI, Chris started Quick Group LLC, where he continues to help clients by providing financial investigation services. Hi, Chris. Thanks for joining me today.
Chris Quick:
I'm glad to be here. Thanks for inviting me.
Justin Burns:
Of course. So, Chris, you have 30 years of experience working on federal investigations, mostly into white-collar crime and complex financial crime investigations. You've conducted investigations ranging from securities investment fraud, corporate accounting fraud, bank fraud, insurance fraud, healthcare fraud, and money laundering. You've investigated a lot. So, I know you have some great stories from your experience investigating each of those types of cases. And I know, I and our listeners can't wait to hear about them. So, first, as part of your work with the FBI, you were detailed to different countries around the world. Can you talk to us about what it's like performing financial investigations in other countries and how that works?
Chris Quick:
Sure. A lot of people don't realize that the FBI has a presence in foreign countries and in the Bureau they're called LEGAT offices. And there's actually agents assigned to the LEGAT offices that are based in different countries, usually assigned to the U.S. embassies or consulate offices. And the purpose of that is, so when the Bureau has a need for an investigation done in another part of the country or another country, excuse me, we will contact our LEGAT office and give them the details, can you, for example, if we need some accounting records, investment records in London, we'll contact our LEGAT office in London and they will hopefully get that information from us by working with Scotland Yard, make a request to Scotland Yard, and they have the liaison with Scotland Yard.
And likewise, sometimes those foreign countries will need an investigation done in the United States. So, they'll reach out to the LEGAT partner in that country and say, Hey, can you get this from us in the United States? So, there's a liaison and back and forth with the various investigative agencies in that country and agencies. So, back in [inaudible 00:03:45], one of my foreign details, and it was a temporary duty assignment that was for like 60 days, and we had a request from our LEGAT office in Prague, Czech Republic, we need someone with some money laundering, white collar experience, on a case that the national police in the Czech Republic was investigating. And it was a case involving government officials, including the Prime Minister of the Czech Republic.
And the allegations were, it was almost like a pay-to-play scheme, getting government contracts and there'll be fixers and then kickbacks to the government officials that award these contracts. And of course, the contracts were overinflated, that's how the kickbacks and profits were kicked back to the government officials. And so, I went there for 60 days and assisted the national police on that. And the reason why is that, the money laundering aspect of the case was, when these overinflated contracts and kickbacks were going back to government officials, they were usually being handled through other entities and tax haven countries and tax haven banks, and a lot of those entities originated in the United States as Delaware corporations.
So, I did a lot of tracing of who was behind the Delaware corporations, and then when these Delaware corporations formed bank accounts in the foreign countries. So, it was a lot of tracing of ownership records to the bank accounts and then getting the bank accounts or the financial records from those banks. And it resulted in, a few months after I left, that the national police ended up conducting search warrants on government offices and at banks and individuals' homes, to gather additional evidence. And that happened in June 2013.
And when that occurred, it was a big uproar in the Czech Republic in Prague and allegations involving the Prime Minister, of course so that was big news. He eventually ended up resigning, the Prime Minister did. And then about a year later, he and other individuals were indicted by the police or the authorities in the Czech Republic. And I came back to the States of course, and went on to other cases. But then eventually, I guess a few years ago, that case lasted a while, I guess in the judicial system there. And some of these officials and the Prime Minister were convicted of these crimes.
Justin Burns:
Oh, wow. Have they been sentenced? Are they serving time? Is this...
Chris Quick:
They were sentenced. I did some research on that online and news articles. There were fines and they got some suspended sentences. And I, read in the articles, the judge felt that because the case dragged on so long from the time they were indicted until they finally were convicted, felt the fines and suspended sentences were appropriate. That's another thing when we work with these foreign countries, we're dealing with their laws and we're at their mercy and their constitution and laws. And so, similar to the United States, but sometimes different, and sometimes the cases drag on.
Justin Burns:
Yeah. So, I mean, you're working with countries that, or the FBI works with countries that we have good relationships with, like the Czech Republic, for example. But you also mentioned that they had accounts in tax haven countries. Were you able to get the information from those tax haven countries? Were they brought in on this? Did they cooperate?
Chris Quick:
Well, again, tax haven countries are difficult, but a lot of times, if you get additional information about the ownership of the tax haven accounts, and I suspect that's why the Czech police did the search warrants to link, sometimes you have to link those bank accounts with actual physical documents that these individual would have. And I'm not sure, because again, I was only there for 60 day and other agents came in and followed it up. So, I don't know how successful they were in getting the documents out of the tax haven countries, but that's always difficult, as you know, because of the secrecy laws of tax havens countries.
Justin Burns:
Yeah, when you said that part of the story, that's where I was like, oh, who did it? How were you able to get those? Did that work out? So, this was a collaborative effort. They requested the FBI's assistance and then you guys provided it. So, is this something that happens a lot or is this an everyday thing that the FBI does?
Chris Quick:
I want to say it's everyday thing, but it is fairly common. There's just a back and forth, because a lot of times, as I mentioned before, the United States will want something out of those countries for our investigations in the United States, so we'll make requests of them. And this one, the Czech Republic requested us because their police unit that did, it was a unit that was doing organized crime. And my understanding is, they sort of stumbled upon this case with government officials while they were doing the organized crime aspect of it.
And it started off with the prime minister's mistress. He was married at the time, actually used the Czech authorities to spy on the wife of the Prime Minister. It was sort of a soap opera type thing. And as they were doing that investigation, they stumbled upon the pay-to-play scheme and thought that investigation. And my understanding is, that unit was not well versed in money laundering and financial aspects of the case. So, that's why. And then with the connection to the Delaware corporations, requested the bureau to come in and help them with it. So, it does happen, where a foreign country will ask us to assist them in a case.
And again, the LEGAT offices will have maybe, depending on the country, one or two agents assigned to the LEGAT office. And those LEGAT agents may not necessarily have the white collar crime experience or the financial know-with-all. So, headquarters will send out a directive to all the field office and say, Hey, we're looking for agents with this experience, would you be interested in going to the Czech Republic for 60 days to assist in the investigation? And for me, it was a no-brainer, because one, I liked the foreign travel, and ironically, my grandmother was born in the Czech Republic. So, that gave me the opportunity to visit the Czech Republic and go back to her heritage and ethics and background. And I was actually, on my off time, go to the small town that she was born in and see where she grew up and things that as a kid she talked about and I was able to actually experience firsthand.
Justin Burns:
Wow, that's a really cool little added bonus there of getting to experience that.
Chris Quick:
And it was also fascinating working with the police in the Czech Republic, because the one officer or investigator I was working with, was actually lived there when the Czech Republic was under Soviet rule. So, I was able to talk to him about what it was like when they were controlled by the Soviet Union and how life was in the Czech Republic with the Soviet Union versus in comparison to when they basically became a free economy and a democracy and the Czech Republic.
Justin Burns:
Oh, wow. Yeah, that's really interesting. And I mean, this case, it's got organized crime, it has a cheating spouse, it's got money laundering, it's got a lot of stuff going on here.
Chris Quick:
Yes. But at the end of the day, it was, the police didn't want to tolerate corruption. And then to their credit, it went to the top and they weren't afraid to investigate it and consequences for those involved.
Justin Burns:
Yeah, I guess with it going so high up, it's kind of politically beneficial to them to bring in someone outside, to where it doesn't look like they have any sort of agenda or anything like that.
Chris Quick:
Well, that's true. But at the end of the day, it's their investigators, their police that have to do the investigation. Because in the LEGAT offices in the foreign countries, I'm working under those investigators authority and not the FBI's authority, because in theory, practically, we have no authority. We're there at the host country, and at their mercy and to follow their rules and their ethics and their customs and their constitution, we have to follow.
Justin Burns:
Oh. Yeah, that's a good point. So, as well as your work overseas with various offices around the world, you also worked for the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force. So, what kind of work does a financial investigator do in relation to counterterrorism work?
Chris Quick:
Well, for a number of years, I was assigned to the Joint Terrorism Task Force. In fact, I was in charge of the Joint Terrorism Task Force in our office in Charleston, South Carolina, and it was made up of other federal agencies, state and local officials. And part of my duties, on the task force, I was the Joint Terrorism finance coordinator for the state, and I was in the Columbia division, and Columbia covers the whole state of South Carolina. And so, every month, headquarters would push out to me in Columbia, my division in Charleston. I would get CTR reports, cash transaction reports, suspicious activity reports filed by the banks, of individuals that may have ties or suspected ties to terrorism. So, I would take those CTRs and SARs, and with the help of the task force, we would do research on the individuals and the entities that were doing these suspicious bank transactions.
We were trying to connect if these individuals or entities had connections to known terrorists or known terrorist countries. And then sometimes, these were foreign individuals living in the United States, so they had connections to their home countries. So, sometimes we would get our LEGAT office involved to get further research of these individuals, through mostly Mideastern countries or North African countries, where we were to research these individuals to see if they had ties or connections to terrorism. And then, on some occasions, we were able to develop enough, that we would open cases and have open cases on those individuals in our area.
Justin Burns:
So, can you talk about how that works? The opening a case and investigating someone, what does that look like?
Chris Quick:
Well, it involves, if we truly believe that they were involved in terrorism or it involved getting FISAs, which were under different authority, under terrorism authority, through FISA courts. And basically what that is wiretaps, where we would wiretap these individuals to see who they were talking to, to see if they were involved in terrorist. And the whole idea of doing the wiretaps and physical surveillance of these individuals is to get the evidence to show that they're involved in terrorist activities.
And then ultimately with the evidence we gathered, we would be able to charge them with using material support of terrorism, was the charge we would likely use on a lot of those cases. And hopefully, prevent them being involved in any terrorist activities that might be committed on the home front, in the United States. People don't realize, they think of terrorism in New York, L.A., major cities, but the Joint Terrorism Task Forces are in every state, every division of the FBI, and there are people that are in everyday small USA cities and towns, that could be involved in terrorism. So, no stone left unturned, philosophy.
Justin Burns:
Yeah, I mean, forgive me, but that was kind of my initial thought when you said South Carolina. And apologies to South Carolina listeners, but I was like, really? South Carolina? I mean, because I were thinking like it's in those big cities, big metro centers that have either house, like D.C., lots of the country's government, or New York, our financial base, things like that, but.
Chris Quick:
Well, the thing you got to realize too is, every state has major universities, colleges. A lot of these individuals will come here as students and to get a foothold or an establishment in the United States. So, there's a couple of universities located in Charleston, university of South Carolina is a hundred miles away. And so, yeah, it happens everywhere. And then there's, think of tech research companies and they're everywhere and people are trying to get associated with those tech companies. And then either it's targets for terrorist activities or get involved with the tech companies to further their terrorist activities.
Justin Burns:
Yeah, that's a really good point. I mean, that's something that I'm certainly guilty of thinking of. It would be kind of constrained to the larger cities. But yeah, you're right about these research institutions and colleges and things like that. I mean, my wife is a professor at a university here, and they have a huge engineering program at this school, and they have tons and tons of foreign students that come in and it's part of the deal is they learn at this engineering school and then they go back and work in their home countries. Yeah, I mean, that's a really good point.
Chris Quick:
Another thing, in Charleston, South Carolina, people don't realize, but Boeing set up a plant in Charleston about, I want to say 12, 15 years ago, and all the 787 Dreamliners are assembled in Charleston, South Carolina. So, literally, when you're going to the airport in Charleston, South Carolina, either going to the airport, leaving, you will see a row of all the 787 Dreamliners that are manufactured here. And they're from everywhere, I mean all foreign airlines. So, they originate Charleston. So again, that's another target of opportunity potentially for terrorists.
Justin Burns:
Yeah, wow. Yeah, I mean, that's all great points and very insightful. That's amazing. And I think now's a good time to take our ad break.
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Justin Burns:
Okay. And we're back from our break with Chris Quick. He's talking about the various investigations that he has worked throughout his career. So, Chris, in the first half, we talked about the investigations and types of investigations you worked during your 30 years with the FBI. So, you have since left government employment and you've started your own practice, Quick Group. What types of cases are you working on now?
Chris Quick:
So, we do all types of investigative work, but when it comes to the financial side of it, one type of cases we are involved with is, either individual or businesses will come to us, that have been victims of fraud or have been defrauded. And they'll say, Hey, Chris, can you find out? Either they know who it was or they don't know who it was, but, can you find the identity of the individual or individuals that defrauded me and can you quantify the amount?
They're looking for me to hopefully find that out and get their money back, which is sometimes a tall tale when a fraud occurs, because... But anyway, in a lot of those cases, what I'm able to do is, identify the individuals, quantify the fraud. And a lot of cases, I have actually done a report. Like, if I was an FBI agent, and I'll refer it to the FBI or to other state agencies to do further investigation, because they're going to have more resources and more. And we've had a lot of cases, I would say four or five, that we've referred to the FBI or state authorities and they've picked them up and ran with them and done further investigations which resulted in indictments of those individuals.
Justin Burns:
Yeah, I mean, that's great. I mean, I think you touched on something there with the recoveries. People aren't usually stealing money to put it in a savings account. They're spending, so.
Chris Quick:
No. For the Bureau, and what I'm doing now is, they're spending the money, high lifestyle. I mean, you'll be lucky if maybe they defrauded enough people and enough money that they're putting it away. But then, even then, they're hiding those assets to prevent recovery of those assets that they've stolen. But you're right, a lot of it's just high lifestyle and that money's gone, unfortunately.
Justin Burns:
Yeah.
Chris Quick:
So, the next best thing is to get a criminal prosecution and hopefully put them in jail to pay for the crimes and prevent them from furthering other frauds on other people. Then on the flip side of it, I get a lot of cases from defense attorneys, that'll call me and say, Chris, my client's being investigated by the FBI or the IRS. Can you come in and talk to my client and let's look and see if they really are involved in this activity that they're being investigated for? And sometimes we've had success where they weren't involved in criminal activity, but the optics looked bad and we were able to find other evidence that they weren't involved in a crime.
Although, sometimes, some of the clients were involved in a crime. And in that case, I would present what I found in the evidence to the attorney, and then they would likely well, let's get them, the clients, in front of the prosecutors to work out a deal, so we can minimize their exposure to criminal sentencing. And part of that thing is too, is hopefully recovering some of that money, so they get a lighter sentence or a cooperation agreement that'll look favorably to them. So, I've done a couple of those cases too.
And then, get a lot of cases involving civil cases, just basic, where company A is suing company B, because company B owes them money. And so, the attorneys will say, Chris, can you do the financial analysis and see if they really owe this money? And who's responsible for that? So, those are strictly civil cases, and sometimes we'll do damage assessments. They're [inaudible 00:28:56] money and their due interest, and we'll do calculations to give to the attorneys and work that out in the civil cases.
But then a lot of... I say a lot, but a large majority of cases, we get internal corporate investigations, where companies will come to us and say, we suspect an employee is involved in wrongdoing or employees involved in embezzlement. Can you come and investigate that for us to quantify the embezzlement or quantify the activity of the employees that are involved, so the company could take appropriate action?
Justin Burns:
Okay. So, those are cases where they, well, I guess you get both, like you mentioned earlier, you get cases where they're like, money's leaking out somewhere. Can you identify how? And then you also get ones where they're like, oh, we think it's this person. Can you quantify it and give us the results there?
Chris Quick:
Right, exactly.
Justin Burns:
Okay. So, I mean, I imagine, with wide variety of cases and then the many of types of cases that you're working, you've got some pretty good stories. Do you have any that you're willing to share with us?
Chris Quick:
Sure. And I think the one you're getting at is, I was actually involved in internal bank investigation involving Alex Murdaugh, which I guess some people know, Alex Murdaugh's is an attorney in South Carolina that was actually convicted for killing his own son and his wife a few years back. And while he was being investigated for the murders, it came out that he was actually stealing or embezzling client funds for people he was representing in his law practice. And so, one of my attorney's friends, who I worked with, with the U.S. attorney's office, he was out in private practice. And he asked me to join him on the bank investigation, the Palmetto State Bank, where Alex Murdaugh did his personal banking and that the law firm did his banking at. Asked us to come in and do an internal investigation, and was determined that he was possibly stealing money.
The bank wanted to know, because he use his bank for checking accounts, for the law firm's trust account, the bank wanted know, do any of our employees or does the bank have any exposure in this fraud? So, the internal investigation was done at Palmetto State Bank, and it was a bank that had maybe three or four locations in a rural part of South Carolina. It was a family-owned bank, and the board of directors requested myself and the attorney to come in and do the investigation, because they were worried about what exposure, criminal or civil liability that the bank had.
So, we did it, we started our internal investigation. We interviewed bank employees like you would in any investigation. We looked at the bank account records for Alex Murdaugh's law firm. We looked at his personal bank account and his wife's bank account records that that was at Palmetto Federal. And we did notice that it became obvious that one of the vice presidents of the bank was assisting Alex Murdaugh in the banking activities, in the stealing of the funds, client's funds from the law firms.
And so, what we noticed in looking at the bank records is, Alex Murdaugh got a lot of cashier's checks at the bank. And what he would do is, if someone had a lawsuit and he sued someone... Usually these were wrongful death cases, and he would get a settlement for a client, let's say for, that I'm just throwing out, $2 million. Instead of taking the funds and depositing it directly into the firm's IOLTA or trust account, it's called the trust account, and then the money would normally be distributed from the trust account back to the client and expenses and things like that. Instead, he would take the settlement check, deposit it at the bank and get, let's say the $2 million.
He might divide that up into two or three different cashier's checks, and only a portion of the settlement from one of those would go into the trust account. So, in other words, he would represent to the client, you only got a million dollar settlement when in fact they got 2 million. So, he kept a million for himself and used it for other things. And the reason how he was able to do it was with these cashier's checks. And so, when we were looking at that, we noticed a pattern that was occurring a lot. We had a lot of cashier's checks that was doing this with settlements. And so, basically go back to old-fashioned tracing the money, where did the cashier's checks go and who benefited from the cashier's checks? And we found out that the banker was involved, because he authorized these cashier's checks.
He had to sign off and say, okay, $2 million settlement check came in, we'll divide that up into three cashier's check. One cashier's check's for a million went here and a million went there. And we could show that, a lot of those funds went to Alex's personal bank accounts, or to his wife's bank account or to pay for property that he was purchasing, things like that. So yeah, a lot of cashier's checks, we had to document that. And then another thing that we found out from the investigation was that, on a lot of these lawsuits that Alex Murdaugh had, it involved, as I stated, wrongful death cases. And some of these wrongful death cases involved minors whose parents were killed in car wrecks or accidents. So, Alex would get a settlement from the wrongful death case for millions of dollars and deposit the money at Palmetto State Bank in trust.
And the banker, who was Russell Laffitte, was the conservator of those funds. And what we were able to determine from the investigation was that, Alex Murdaugh and Russell Laffitte would take loans against those conservator funds and use loans, personal loans that they would take from those. And so what would happen is, when these minors became of age, they're expecting the full settlement amount. Well, these loans have to be paid back. Well, guess how the loans are paid back. From other settlements, from other cases. They paid the loan back with those settlements. So, it was sort of like somewhat of a Ponzi scheme or check-cutting scheme. We'll just steal money from other clients and put it back into those accounts.
So, I remember doing basically a massive spreadsheet where we could show every transaction, money coming in, money going out, who got it, who benefited from it. And as a result of that investigation, the bank fired Russell Laffitte. And ultimately, the feds came in, the FBI, U.S. attorney's office and investigated Alex Murdaugh and Russell Laffitte for the fraud that occurred with these transactions. And they were both prosecuted [inaudible 00:38:02] wired and mail fraud and money laundering.
Justin Burns:
You led with, he got fired. And I was worried. I was like, well, hold on. He had to be more than just fired. But yeah, he was prosecuted and-
Chris Quick:
But to Palmetto State Bank, that's why they wanted us to do the internal investigation. It was a family-owned bank, and the board of directors we're not going to... Like any bank, want to know what was going on. They weren't aware of this. And if anyone in our bank was involved, they wanted to know. So, when we gave them results, they fired Russell Laffitte. But then the problems didn't stop there because, about the time we did our investigations, the feds were coming in doing their investigation, and they found the same things we did. In fact, the attorney I work with, was a former prosecutor. And as we're going through this, we're like, this is classic money laundering. This is classic bank and wire fraud that we investigated when I was with the FBI and when he was with the U.S. attorney's office.
Justin Burns:
Yeah. So, Laffitte was benefiting through these loans and were there kickbacks as well?
Chris Quick:
He was getting these conservator fees from all the conservator funds. And then, he did get some money from Alex Murdaugh too for, he benefited from money from Alex Murdaugh too. So, we were able to determine, it was in the indictment when he was indicted, they determined just at Palmetto State Bank alone, that the fraud was $3.5 million.
Justin Burns:
So, forgive me if you've already said it. What was Laffitte's sentence? How much time did he get?
Chris Quick:
He appealed his sentence, and recently I think he's been sentenced to, I think it's over seven years in jail.
Justin Burns:
Okay. Wow. So, I believe there's a documentary on either Netflix or Amazon. There's probably multiple out there. Did they reach out to you about this?
Chris Quick:
No. No. I mean, as you know, sometimes financial stuff is boring, right? I mean, the more salacious thing was the actual murders, unfortunately, of the son and his wife, and that's what they focused on, and then the stealing of the client funds. But again, my piece of the pie in this case was, what happened at Palmetto State Bank, because they're the ones that hired us to determine what happened in our bank.
Justin Burns:
Yeah, I guess those crimes are more interesting to most people. But I mean, come on, we got to show the accountants some love. Give them some [inaudible 00:41:08].
Chris Quick:
I'm with you. I'm with you on that, yeah. [inaudible 00:41:16] Studying accounting in college, I was just sort of fascinated with money and financial investigations. So, I find it very interesting.
Justin Burns:
Yeah, I always think of it as it's a big puzzle and you're just trying to see how it all fits together, figure out what the picture is.
Chris Quick:
Yeah. And ultimately, it boils down to, I say this, and as you are aware, and a lot of accountants and financial investors know, it's just follow the money. And sometimes it's painstaking because a lot of layers are used, i.e. on the, with Alex Murdaugh and Russell Laffitte, cashier's checks. But there's always a trail. So, if you take it by step, by step by step, you ultimately could find out who benefited, who got the benefit of the money, and that's the person usually guilty of the crime.
Justin Burns:
Yeah, and Chris, these are all amazing stories, and you've done some really interesting stuff throughout your career and are still doing amazing, amazing work. If our listeners want to get in touch with you, what's the best way to do that?
Chris Quick:
Yes, there's two ways the listeners can reach out to me. One is through my website, which is quickgroupllc.com. Just Google it, it'll come up. You'll see my photograph there and other investigators that I have that are involved, some that are former FBI agents too. Or you could email me and my email is cquick@quickgroupllc.com.
Justin Burns:
That's awesome. And we'll put the links to both of those in the show notes for our listeners. Chris, it was great having you. Thank you for coming on our show.
Chris Quick:
Well, again, thank you for inviting me and then letting me share some of my stories.
Justin Burns:
Yeah, appreciate it.
Chris Quick:
All right, take care.
Leah Wietholter:
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